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Vlog #9: Who Hijacked Islam??!



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I turn on the TV and I'm amazed the type of characters they have explaining my religion to the masses. No wonder the world is confused about Islam.

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I was reading that ... ( 1 day ago by DolittleZoo)
I was reading that it seems the rightly guided caliphs all ignored old Mo's rule of 4 wives only.
Muhammads successor, Caliph Umar married 7 women and had 2 slave concubines. The Caliph Uthman married 8 women. The Caliph Ali (Muhammads son-in-law) had 11 wives and 19 slave concubines. Muhammads grandson, Hassan, married 70 women and had at least 31 children.
Passages such as ... ( 1 day ago by chained2it)
Passages such as Koran 3:7 seem designed to let religious leaders play with interpretations to suit themselves. Its kind of like when Christian say something is a "mystery of God" when the bible seems to contradict itself. Its a way of protecting itself against criticism. If God wants me ti understand something and live by it, then he will make it comprehensible. Society cannot be governed by mysticism
That is one of the ... ( 1 day ago by ahlam33)
That is one of the miracles of the Quran. It is complete, needs no experimentation or improvements. And no one has been able to "crack" its mysteries or write anything like it. That challenge was put forth by Allah in the Quran. 2:23-24; 85:21-22.
Nawas7 - I have to ... ( 1 day ago by chained2it)
Nawas7 - I have to agree with DolittleZoo in this point. You speak from the POV of a true believer. That makes little sense to non-Muslims. We do not see the Koran as you do, so such claims seem to us like so much mumbo jumbo, and certainly not a basis fro ruling the lives of men. I use my God-given mind to analyze all religious messages. I refuse to accept anything strictly on faith if my heart and mind tell me they are wrong. God gave me the ability to discern fact from fiction for a reason
What is so ... ( 1 day ago by chained2it)
What is so wonderful about the Koran that no one can write anything like it? I have read it. I was not so amazed. I fail to see how it is fundamentally different than other holy books. And I see no mystery to crack
"Synonyms for ... ( 1 day ago by chained2it)
"Synonyms for instance have slight differences but it could lead to huge differences in meanings if its put in some contexts"
Yes, and that is why I said all ancient books need to be read with an understanding of their context and references. But those are simply nuances of language, not divine mysteries
Word. There's an ... ( 1 day ago by crawlingkiki)
Word. There's an epidemic!
Non of the 4 ... ( 1 day ago by Nawas7)
Non of the 4 Caliphs had violated the Islamic rules of marriage. It happens that some of their wives had died, so they married other women. Some of the Caliphs had divorced women for different reasons, & married another. Beside youre number are incorrect.
In the US people have intimate relations with 7 different partners on average before they reach the age of retirement. This includes partners they cheat on their spouses with.
Totally. ( 1 day ago by ahlam33)
Totally.
The caliphs like ... ( 1 day ago by DolittleZoo)
The caliphs like old Mo in all cases had slave girls (Ali being the worst) which in a proper religion apart from islam is adultery. So muslims can indeed have temporary wives by this practice in their homes. Another trick the caliphs seem to have used was when they saw someone they fancied they divorced or killed their existing wives so muslims could somehow see 4 wives that were legally married at any one time. The divorced women were probably still in the harem to meet the requisite number.
Nawas, it is quite ... ( 1 day ago by DolittleZoo)
Nawas, it is quite shameful that you are trying to compare a so called rightfully guided caliph to a citizen of the United States. Your comparisons are quite baffling in their lack of context.
Islam is just a ... ( 21 hours ago by FHNOGAL)
Islam is just a grotesque terrorist dogma dressed up as a religion. Remember Beslan, On September 1, 2004, muslim terrorists stormed a school in Beslan, Russia, and perpetrated one of the most heinous terror attacks in history.
In the name of allah and the Koran, Muslim terrorists raped and killed dozens of little children.
I just hope GOD sends those filthy islamic butchers to eternal hell for eternal suffering.
Array ( 18 hours ago by Nawas7)
DolittleZoo,
Its more than obvious youre trying hard to demonize people you know the least of, & advocate a real social problem in the US. Many American men & women do cheat on their spouse.
The early 4 Caliphs are far from what you claim. Non of them killed any woman he married. Your prejudices are more than obvious.
All I am asking is ... ( 16 hours ago by DolittleZoo)
All I am asking is Ali married 9 wives. I know Fatimah died but how did 8 wives become 4?? I know he had at least 12 servants he used to copulate with as there were 18 odd children he had to show for it. The "rightly guided caliphs" surely demonstrate that temporary marriages in islam is just fine. Am I right??
Can you name the 8 ... ( 15 hours ago by Nawas7)
Can you name the 8 women he married after the death of Fatima? Do you know when he married each? When each had died? Or if he divorced any? Above all, what's the source where you find all those answers?
1.Umm-ul-Bunian who ... ( 14 hours ago by DolittleZoo)
1.Umm-ul-Bunian who was the daughter of Hazam b. Khalid.
2.Khaula was the daughter of Jafar Hanfiyah.
3.Umm Habib who was the daughter of Rabiah.
4.Asma who was the daughter of Umais.
5.Laila who was the daughter of Masud.
6.Umama who was a daughter of Abi Al Aa's and 7.Hadrat Zainab and elder sister of Hadrat Fatima.
8.Umm Saeed who was a daughter of Urwa.
Muhyat was a daughter of the famous Arab poet Imra-ul-Qais.
I think the presumption is that he didnt marry 4 at a time .
Array ( 14 hours ago by DolittleZoo)
contd
He had a few slave girls of whom Humia and Umm Shuaib bore him 12 daughters, Nafisa, Zainab, Ruqiya, Umm-ul-Karaam, Humaira, Umm Salma, Sughra, Khadija, Umm Hani, Umm Kulthum Jamana and Maimuna. Hadrat Ali was, in all, the father of 15 sons and 18 daughters. [total = 33 children]
I love this guy. ... ( 13 hours ago by enforcelinkin)
I love this guy. Good job.
Islam HAS in fact been hijacked by these extremist morons! I believe Muslims are in general a peaceful people, like christians. But I find it strange how the most hateful Muslim radicals get on tv to innapropriately represent the muslim people!
This is why Ive ... ( 13 hours ago by Nawas7)
This is why Ive repeatedly said Muslims today have 2 enemies:
1- Extremist Muslims, who hijacked Islam before they hijacked any plane or building
2- Other extremists, haters &/ or opportunists who continue the terrorists work by spreading fear, hate, & ignorance so they make money or farther their agenda
So what is your ... ( 10 hours ago by ahlam33)
So what is your point? I mean, how about the KKK and the armies under the White Man's Manifesto, they were all out to show all the Other peoples that the white man was the supreme guide of the human race and some of them used Christanity to back the butchering, stealing, raping, the complete ramshack of cultures and lives. However I dont worry about that because the wrongdoers will be dealt with. So what religion has not been hijacked by greedy, blood-drinking dogs?
That was meant for ... ( 9 hours ago by ahlam33)
That was meant for FHNOGAL. Sorry about that.
Could be that Islam ... ( 6 hours ago by DolittleZoo)
Could be that Islam is a lie against God? If the evidence shows this and yet you ignore it, or show prejudice against the evidence then you are a friend of Islam but an enemy to God the Creator of Heaven and Earth. From what I have seen the culture of Arabs is the striking feature of Islam and not its godliness as history will clearly mark out. Therein lays the problem. What is a religion when it goes against Gods blessings and what chance has it to survive when the curse of God is on it?
Why are you always ... ( 4 hours ago by ahlam33)
Why are you always looking at the Arabs to define what is Islam, how it suppose to be and setting them as an example? The Arabs are humans and humans are created weak. When this notion is kept in mind, your focus on Allah as a supreme guide. How about us American Muslims, we have the best of two worlds and we just want to practice our religion correctly because it balances our lives and the Creator is ever so pleased,insha'allah. You should not think that way about Allah's creation.
ahlam, My beef is ... ( 3 hours ago by DolittleZoo)
ahlam, My beef is not with Arabs. I have admiration for Muhammad and the Abbasids as after all they are the creators of an empire and in those days that was the name of the game. The arabs never had it so good under their direction. Mo was a great arab patriot. My concern is that Islam is not a universal message and it has gone beyond its remit or people have extrapolated something beyond its limit and I can see it clearly straining at the seams.


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