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Philly Joe Jones

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My Favorite Jazz Drumer

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Read Bill Evans ... ( 4 months ago by seiyuhosono)

Read Bill Evans biography by Peter Pettinger. Philly Joe was the best in Bill's book.

Damn Philly Joe, ... ( 4 months ago by PAPILLION71)

Damn Philly Joe, you were one bad ass mother on the drums man...
Miles's best drummer...
I have a killer Bill Evans trio w Philly Joe, he added so much energy to those sides. Funny thing is Philly & Evans use to be great friends as well, they use to hang together, along with Chet Baker for a time. They all worked at Riverside in the warehouse, can you believe that! Art Pepper use to to, they would steel records and then autograph them & sell them they were so broke.

I read that in the ... ( 4 months ago by PAPILLION71)

I read that in the book "Deep in a dream"-great book.

Purely ignorant ... ( 3 months ago by jmcdrummer)

Purely ignorant statement on so many levels..you need to do your homework: in many interviews, Philly Joe stated that one of his major heroes was Buddy Rich..and Buddy had a long established career decades before Philly Joe came on the scene..it was Buddy who influenced Philly..not the other way around: racism has no place in appreciating art.

you're definately ... ( 3 months ago by andrecornal)

you're definately white with out regards of other cultures

This has nothing to ... ( 3 months ago by jmcdrummer)

This has nothing to do with race: you don't know your drum history. The facts as I stated than stand unchallenged. In fact, Buddy Rich frequently acknowledged his admiration for black drummers e.g. Jo Jones,Chick Webb, etc. Your personal attack on me reveals the narrowness of your thinking.I have been a player for over 50 years and knew many of these people, personally..Neither Philly Joe or Buddy Rich would have shared your views, either as musicians or as human beings.

as matter of fact ... ( 3 months ago by andrecornal)

as matter of fact you don't know what i know so you can't make an empty assumption as such; calling you white is not an attack, but if you have a problem with it ain't mine. as you can't claim to know what br or philly thought like; the fact is a lotta white musicians had it much easier than blacks, and blacks' music was more pure, where whites' were just imitating. being black in america was no joke, or something to take lightly, and that looks like it's something you don't know nothing about..

As a matter of fact ... ( 3 months ago by jmcdrummer)

As a matter of fact, I CAN claim to know what Philly and Buddy thought about such matters.I played professionally for 50 years and knew both of these guys and have heard them voice their opinions about these issues.Drumming is an art form that encompasses influences from many cultures and races. It does not "belong" to anyone. No art form does.I won't be posting any further comments. It is waste of energy.

jmcdrummer - Ignore ... ( 3 months ago by Standardfrank)

jmcdrummer - Ignore andrecornal! Facts are facts. Papa Joey Jones highly influenced Buddy Rich & Louise Bellson et al, they in return influenced others. Bach influenced Beethhoven etc that's how the dimensions of greatness arise. With regards to 'white folk' had it easier...like hell! People who make such comments have no idea what Rich had to go through to get gigs and make sure he earned sufficiently for his mighty band to make sure he could support their lives continously on salary!

andrecornal-I see ... ( 3 months ago by Standardfrank)

andrecornal-I see from your comments that you have no idea what it takes to earn a salary for your fellow man, If any musician had it 'easy' they're output would be 'shit'. Do you know what it takes to create a skill set in music that people will gladly pay for year in year out? Standards have to broken continously for that to happen. 'Black' or 'white' you must always break standards and not just merely copy. I haven't seen any great drummer who drums the same as any of their peers! Impossible!

Did Philly always ... ( 3 months ago by nemrac76)

Did Philly always play Zildjians or did he ever use Paiste Formula 602's like Joe Morello and Roy Haynes did?

Don't even talk ... ( 2 months ago by Ouellette1978)

Don't even talk about race, just listen to the music. Black, white, purple or orange, Philly was one bad cat on them drums, and if Evans used him that goes to show you even more........
Just ashame they sniffed so much coke together, but I guess that was part of the scene back then

oh man 2:20-2:30!! ... ( 2 months ago by bellsonrich)

oh man 2:20-2:30!! thats crazy stuff.

i thought that ... ( 2 months ago by bellsonrich)

i thought that philly was around the same time as buddy and not after?

Andrecornal, I ... ( 1 month ago by enthusiastoftoast)

Andrecornal, I disagree with your assessment of musical "purity". Seriously, it's kind of shallow. Even in the most basic music history class, we learn that the earliest American music, had an almost equal mix of African and European influence. REALLY complex rhythmic theory and patterns came from Africa, and the basis of tone and form came from Europe.
And what about Country music? I don't like it much, but Hank Williams? Pretty damn "pure" to me.
you can call me ignorant, or share some facts.

Seems like my ... ( 1 month ago by andrecornal)

Seems like my point's been twisted; surely whites would like to see the history of the U.S. free of racism, like it never was. The fact is that black musicians had it much harder than whites, regardless of talent, and black music is the origin of blues, jazz, comes from Africa, whether you like it, agree, or not, but sure, anyone's quick to claim their credit, good luck! (whoever writes the book, right?). Just as there are people that claim the holocaust never happened. Give me a damn break!

About purity, sure, ... ( 1 month ago by andrecornal)

About purity, sure, Hank Williams is pure because of his background; by "purity" I mean that is closer to the source. Just as if you listen to Leadbelly, or John Mayall... there would be no comparison there at all.

Watch the video of ... ( 1 month ago by andrecornal)

Watch the video of Sun Ra All Stars with Philly; there you see what a mind he was... he could really stretch it with originality and imagination

watch the one with ... ( 1 month ago by andrecornal)

watch the one with the Sun Ra All Stars; does a fantastic solo

And you're twisting ... ( 1 month ago by enthusiastoftoast)

And you're twisting my point, and deflecting like Palin! What does people denying the holocaust have to do with anything I said? Absolutely inappropriate
All I was saying, was that the music of the early 1900's, from both races, was derivative of african and european culture, pretty equally. Granted, I agree that black musicians had it hard, and still do, but the measure of purity was a bit ill conceived, and you check your facts, rather than make blanket statements.

I disagree with ... ( 1 month ago by andrecornal)

I disagree with your point about Jazz and Blues being "equally" African and European influenced; you obviously haven't listened to much African music. You can hear the purity of Blues in African music. You can FEEL the ROOT, but obviously, if you can't tell the difference between Tommy Dorsey and Duke Ellington, then you need more hours of listening, or maybe it's just something you can't grasp anyhow.

For Philly it was ... ( 1 month ago by andrecornal)

For Philly it was another gig; met Evans with Miles, but Evans' "improvisations" were not. They were predisposed; Cecil Taylor points it clearly.

andre - you wrote: ... ( 1 month ago by Standardfrank)

andre - you wrote:
About purity, sure, Hank Williams is pure because of his background; by "purity" I mean that is closer to the source. Just as if you listen to Leadbelly, or John Mayall... there would be no comparison there at all.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS..

hmm, i was epecing ... ( 1 month ago by steerclear036)

hmm, i was epecing a bit more, this is only the second philly solo ive heard and both sound the same to be honest up until about 1:45.