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Tolkien on Rings mythology

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Previously unbroadcast clips from a 1968 interview with JRR Tolkien in which he outlines some of the mythology from Lord of the Rings.
Transcription (thanks to okiltex):
Everybody, including divine spirits under god, makes mistakes in this mythology, and of course the gods made a primary error. Instead of leaving elves and men to find out their way under the guidance of god, they invited the elves because the rebel amongst them, the wicked god Melkor, was alive and devastated a large part of the world.
They took them back into their paradise in the west to protect them, and so the whole machinery starts from the rebellion of the elves, and therefore, in rebellion of the evil they did in their bursting out from paradise.
So what you've got in our period is two lots of elves: The ones that never started, just didn't want to, never bothered to be anything higher than they were, were the ordinary woodland elves of the far-east.
Those who started to go to divine paradise and never got there, which are the grey elves of the west, and those who got and came back as exiled.
The higher elves, who sing this song to Elbereth in the beginning of the Lord of the Rings, are exiled elves who had once known what it was to see the ?emerging? gods in person.
Now dwarves create a difficulty, don't they, in this particular thing. They have certain grievances against men and against elves. They are incarnate in bodies. While they are like ourselves, we don't know much about them, but they apparently are mortal, they are ?longeval?. Where do they come into the scheme? Well of course, a great deal of sort to provide their origin.
I don't think I'll say anything about it at the moment, but they have a rational origin related to their theme, but they are not part of the children of god. That's all I can really say about this.
Men are just men.

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to a degree,it's ... ( 1 month ago by Cmey2k)

to a degree,it's obvious he's talking about God in the context of the writing in this interview.Tolkien did not want people to think his work a direct allegory.that's much different than saying that he didn't put his Catholic world view into the story, which he did. middle earth was before much revelation of God as the modern Christians know Him, that is why He is not spoken of much.Tolkien converted Lewis to Christianity by telling him that the myths of the pagans were forshadowing of Christ.

it is not about the ... ( 1 month ago by commercialx)

it is not about the readers interpretation.... even if the man who wrote it would like people to take from it what they want, its like saying i punched u in the face but the way u see it could be different than the way i see it u stupid fucks, the fact is jrr wrote this and he does have a meaning, no one knows it but him but to say that you have ur own interpretation is wrong because his interpretation is what that shit is so dont say anything about his shit let him do it. crazy fucks

astoundin' ( 4 weeks ago by Lion117)

astoundin'

Firstly, I dont ... ( 3 weeks ago by roac7777)

Firstly, I dont like your foul language commercialx, very orc like.
Secondly, with all art whether it be books, paintings and sculptures the artist has his/her own interpretation but just as importantly so does the reader or the viewer.
When we talk about our own interpretation we dont mean the main story line we are referring to the spiritual/religous side of the book.
Have a care and think before you write scurrilous remarks.

I have to beg to ... ( 3 weeks ago by roac7777)

I have to beg to differ Cmey2k insomuch that there is alot of Greek Mythology and Norse mythology in the books, ie: The Greek panteon of gods and norse ie The Undying lands - Valhalla. There are no churches, no Jesus or messiah.
Wizards, trolls, orcs, dragons are all part of norse myth.
In the end, like I have said before, there lies the readers interpretation of the spiritual side of the books.

what I speak about ... ( 3 weeks ago by Cmey2k)

what I speak about Tolkien snd mythology is common knowledge and not debated as to it's authenticity among scholars. i am speaking specifically of pagan fertility gods.

How Eru(Ilúvatar) ... ( 3 weeks ago by rodog69)

How Eru(Ilúvatar) or God as he is referred to by Tolkien here. Was of very little resembles to the Catholic God. But here is a little fun fact. When Gandalf died in the fight with the Balrog, it was beyond the power of the Valar to resurrect him: Ilúvatar himself intervened to send Gandalf back.

Tolkien ripped off ... ( 2 weeks ago by mythicalpoet)

Tolkien ripped off Wagner's Ring Trilogy--do the research for yourself before you bitch and moan and attack my character. And besides that he shares the profound racism of Wagner. You are probably ignorant of that fact as well. Tolkien was a literary hack and people would do well to know that. This is why he is not ackowledged as a great writer.

you must be joking ... ( 2 weeks ago by jonkind)

you must be joking right. he is a hack ? He is not acknowledged as a great writer ? where the f*** did you come from ? now see, i never even heard of a wagner ring trilogy isnt that funny ?

wagner's ring cycle ... ( 2 weeks ago by StLucas776)

wagner's ring cycle was an opera, and the only ring mentioned was a ring made by a dwarf with gold stolen from the rhine river. it certainly involved a lot of norse mythology, and may indeed have inspired tolkein, but in no way is he ripping it off

tolkein says so ... ( 2 weeks ago by Brew4me111)

tolkein says so himself in the forward of the fellow ship of the ring that the story is not an alagory for anything. it is his own history that he made up.

Ronald was so full ... ( 2 weeks ago by Gilgamesh73)

Ronald was so full of himself.

wagners ring ... ( 1 week ago by Azgoltzolxith)

wagners ring trilogy was about the rings of norse mythology
the lord of the rongs trilogy has a completely different plot
of course there are good and evil in both but what the fuck, every story does.

This man had A deep ... ( 1 week ago by ILUV74)

This man had A deep understanding if you like of early ancient british /anglo saxon history ,it was part of his job at cambridge .He just incorparated what he knew from history into a story .thats how he knew about beowulf ,it was everyday subject.

Tolkien is not ... ( 1 week ago by modst84)

Tolkien is not acknowledged as great writer simply becauses he wasn't a writer in the traditional sense, most of his work was simply a product of his love for languages.
His genius was his ability to create history that was so rich and well thought-out that it didn't matter if the writing was off, you'd still be drawn to the story.
He didn't rip off Wagner, that's just ridiculus, even if it would be fair to say he wasn't all that original.
His work as a whole however is undoubtedly unique.

mythicalpoet - ... ( 1 week ago by roac7777)

mythicalpoet - Tolkien is not racist as Wagner clearly was. Of course there are elements of Norse mythology in Tolkiens works but that is far as it goes when referring to Norse myths. He certainly did not plaguerise Wagners ring trilogy. He may have gained the idea from it as he gained some ideas from the many norse legends. Every artist on earth gains his main idea for a work from some other persons work. He certainly was not a lit. hack and he is acknoweledged as a great writer.

As this is You Tube ... ( 1 week ago by roac7777)

As this is You Tube there is bound to be people going onto a site just to cause mischief by slagging off the artist or vid concerned. People like mythicalpoet, who are nothing but trolls.
Fear not fans of Tolkien, just wait for the dawn and the sun will turn them to stone.

The true equation ... ( 1 week ago by joaharu)

The true equation is 'democracy' = government by world financiers...The main mark of modern governments is that we do not know who governs, de facto any more than de jure. We see the politician and not his backer;

still less the ... ( 1 week ago by joaharu)

still less the backer of the backer; or what is most important of all, the banker of the backer. Enthroned above all, in a manner without parallel in all past, is the veiled prophet of finance, swaying all men living by a sort of magic, and delivering oracles in a language not understanded [sic] of the people."
J.R.R. Tolkien,
Candour Magazine, 13 July 1956, p. 12

There's a mistake ... ( 6 days ago by RarendtheBlack)

There's a mistake in the transcript. He isn't saying "higher elves" he's saying "high elves" in refrence to the Amanyar

i fucking love me ... ( 6 days ago by dragonflypics)

i fucking love me some lord of the rings. But Tolkien's voice fucking put me to sleep. lol

Considering the ... ( 6 days ago by NilDesperandum777)

Considering the interview was about a world of mythology that Tolkien created and knew better than anyone could...As a fan of Tolkien's works, I find these remnants of film on the man to be spellbinding.

roac7777: I'm ... ( 5 days ago by mythicalpoet)

roac7777: I'm afraid you are a bit uninformed on his status as a writer. He is shunned by every single literati and critic. You have a lot to learn when it comes to literary critcism.

tolkien is on acid ( 4 days ago by derfroa)

tolkien is on acid